Posts by B3mo

    Hej guys. Hope you all are doing fine.

    I was again digging through the Forum rules and decided to open this thread. The reason is actually quite simple. When a new thread is getting opened where a good discussion is going on but leads to get off topic it is getting locked. Also you can take your time reading the discussion, thinking about it and answer later what is actually not possible in the official discord server. So everyone can actually participate in the discussion if they feel like it. Oh and because this thread is the "Off-Topic Discussion" thread everything is actually the topic even if a new discussion starts because of the old one. And there is no rule wich forbidds me to open such a thread.

    So yeah feel free to start off with anything you want to discuss. Everything should be fine but at least stick to the Forum Rules.

    I invite you to read this topic and to know that "we" didn't do anything to the game.

    S4League Community Managers & Game Masters

    Cool. Thanks. So you want to tell me that communication is actually so bad, that a CM (or GM) that is able to answer game and forum related questions (what this topic is) can't go to the PM or devs or whoever he can get that Information and answer it?

    How about giving a good answer and locking this thread instead of telling us that we are going off topic here? I think no one here has anything against that.

    I'm not sure but should I invite you to read this: Terms of Service ?

    The name of the topic is about the fumbi dance.

    And even if the forum is a bit dead it isnt a excuse to avoid the rules.

    Well this question was obviously addressed to you guys the S4 League Team. How the hell should we answer that? You guys messed it up not we the normal community.

    Well I mean thats right, but you don't do anything. If it is a problem here to avoid the rules why it isn't on the official S4 League discord server? The rules get broken on a daily basis there and no one f-ing cares there Opheliafacepalm

    Aeria and Gamigo are pretty much the same company right now (they even share the same customer support system).

    For me it looks like they are just not familiar with the game as much. Also kara has said in the past that they have in house team but it is not dedicated to s4 only.

    Well if you say so. The heart breaker thread says the 3D artists are coming from gamigo (as I understand it) and so I guess the devs also. If they are now pretty much the same company thats also fine for me but with this lack of effort they want to put into the game it is going to shut down sooner or later.

    P7S1 owns both aeria and gamigo.

    It is called Pro 7 Sat 1 Puls 4 (P7S1P4) nowadays. And no they don't own them.

    Well as good as this discussion is I'm gonna give you the information that I have. Wich leads to a pointless discussion I guess.

    First of all gamigo bought aeria games and aeria games "own" S4 League. But aeria games has actually no developer team. That means some gamigo developers are making the changes in S4 League, but they work on several games. So they took the cheapest way (except doing nothing for the game) what leads to endless taking patches that mostly fail because the developer team doesn't work with the meta all the time. And the S4 League Team probably can't do anything about it. They can give the developer team the ideas but they are dependent on them. And because gamigo bought aeria games, aeria games is on the bottom of the regime. Wich means if a patch fails it is gonna take 6 weeks(?) again until maybe the problems get solved. Because gamigo games > aeria games games.

    Only to give ya the picture of it (Based on the information that I have. I have no insight.)

    We are currently at a state of changes and have started to work on fixing major bugs. As always there can appear new unwanted bugs which have slipped trough the QA or which are not that mandatory as other bugs and will be fixed later. We have learned from our mistakes in the past months and have developed new strategies to offer you better Patches.

    Well, that sounds good, but again only shallow information. What mistakes do you mean? What are the new strategies? What would be a better patch?

    We understand that you love the game and want to have it in the state as it is in your nostalgic memories.
    We may not always fit all expectation, but I can tell you that we care about the game and your opinion.

    I think the state for nostalgic memories already passed long ago for most of us active people here.

    Should we still have expectations?

    Ehm yeah it is nice that you care about the game and our opinions. Looks like someone here is lying but hey that is just my opinion.

    But they don't hurts anyone by existing, right? People are even asking for old moon and rusty garden even if they aren't going to be played.

    I guess absence still creates some demand but there is no guarantee anything will change when those gets added back.

    I guess they don't hurt anyone. I'm not 100% sure tho.

    I wouldn't add them back.

    Valid point and i think the same but instead of punishing there may be rewards for continuous play.

    Well I thought about it and I don't come to a good conclusion with every scenario I think that would be possible. That does mean the penalty I suggested wouldn't work either. Therefore both suggestions would only work if some conditions arround are met.

    I mostly agree with you but I don't think this is even enough to "make S4 great again". However, that would surely be nice.

    I disagree with your map rotation. That can be a good idea if S4 were a game with millions of player but nowaday, it will only kill the game. People are just gonna stop playing at all when they can't play what they wanna play right now.

    Well it won't make S4 great again. There are too many factors that I didn't mentioned and I also did not consider in this thread. This is just a list what I would do with the game at some point (not now), and not aeriagames/gamigo. These changes honestly are never going to happen.

    Yes. You are completely right on that. And that also includes the Stats point up there.


    True. Sorry about the misunderstanding on my side.


    Here again sorry. I didn't wrote that down clearly. I would just remove the modes. No reason to keep them for me.


    Yeah but what is the definition of a "good map"?

    Well a queue system with random maps would do kinda the same thing when it comes to playing those maps. If players don't land on the so called "good map" they just gonna leave the match. But a penalty would maybe help in this case like you can't join the queue for 30mins. Something like that maybe?


    Of course it would be. This is what we pointed out more than once. We completely agree on that.


    I don't know. I honestly didn't really put my attention on it because the game freezes for me when I open this section and I probably have to restart the game.

    I don't think map rotation will help people probably won't play those days

    Yeah like already mentioned above. Just a little addition here. This 1 sidedness ingame is also helping very well to not play this game nowadays (not to mention that many people cant even play the game and the next patch for that probably gonna take some weeks...).

    First of all this thread is about changes I would make in S4 League and I'm ignoring lag, connection and bug issues. Second ( Heiliger ) if there are some suspicious links these are just png files that probably just dont show up ( So if you can't see the Images please let me know. This forum is kinda hard to figure out and I'm trying to fix it as soon as I come to (example: when I'm logged in I see the Images but if I'm not I can't see them). And I forgot the third point so lets start with


    This is probably the most important point because this is actually the first Impression about the game. S4 League is a futuristic anime TPS "e-Sport" game. I am not sure if aeriagames/gamigo actually know how important a good looking UI (or GUI) based on the game is. The current UI isn't representing the game in my opinion. It's... well... I don't think it got many positive feedback. I don't see the futuristic part in the UI at all.

    And to give a really simple example: Would you buy for yourself a Shirt that doesn't fit your taste? You wouldn't.

    So why should new players stick with a game that 1. can't represent for what it stands for and 2. doesn't leave a good first impression.

    That would be the first thing that I would work on.


    There are many different modes in S4 League and yeah some don't really get played. So why are these modes still in the game? No one really touches Warfare or Arena. Warfare is just usefull because of the mission. That is the only purpose it has. Arena has no purpose at all. And no. When no one plays a certain mode it loses ist purpose. It is like having a washing machine but never washing my clothes with it. Wouldn't make sence to have the washing machine.


    No I'm not gonna talk about excisting maps that are not in the game or new maps. It is also not about changing maps. It is more like how the maps are getting handled. This means on that and that day you can choose between that and that map (Random excluded).

    As example:


    TD: Station-3 and Tunnel are chooseable and the other maps are not.

    DM: Neden 2 and Circle are chooseable and the other maps are not.


    TD: Station-2 and Old School are chooseable and the other maps are not.

    DM: Bio Lab and Square are chooseable and the other maps are not.

    and so on...

    If the maps are getting handled like this every map is getting played and yeah I know for the most of you this is something you probably wouldn't agree on. But having more variety in the game is for me something positive.


    Most of you already know that I'm completely for the PEN stats limit. So AP/FP items, enchants, Esper Chips and Unique Skills should get kicked out. Also weapons that are clearly broken are getting removed until they got fixed. Not to hype up the competition part of the game, but to make the gameplay at all slower, more teambased and of course more beginner friendly. Having a unfair stats model and a very fast gameplay isn't really helping to get new players. It actually makes the game totally frustrating and I wouldn't touch the game a 2nd time if I would be in this position.



    Yeah this would be something like a Clanmark and can be optained exactly like the permanent parts in missions. So you obtain a little logo beside the clanmark and choose whatever logo you want if you achieved more titles like "lose 1000 games" you get "insert Name here" title. Could also be a way for a additional level system if you already reached lvl80. So you still "lvl up" but you just gain a title and the higher you get the title changes (but not changeable ofc). On the other hand pretty senceless because with more levels the rank logo would change anyway.

    Thingy behind Name in Lobby

    I don't know how it is called. The thing you obtain with these "cards" when you get all parts of a set + weapon (hopefully everyone knows what I'm talking about xD). This is nothing new but I would get rid of the "cards" at all and make these otherwise obtainable (and ofc no additional stats in game). I would make different ones for different event days like Halloween, Christmas, etc. and you get those when you fullfill some event task.

    Well and that's it. I haven't taken everything in the game in consideration I know, but for like Tutorial I would have to make a own thread I guess.

    Sorry for my english.

    Well honestly I don't think this is going to be a ever a thing here but like Molang I appreciate the effort behind it.

    So here are my thought on this overall:

    1. Having a competetive mode while the game itself is running on a "P2W System" is biting itself.

    2. I'm not trying to do my best to bring some life back to the game. I'm not gaining anything if I would do so. And aeriagames/gamigo ownes the game and they also do nothing.

    3. The playerbase is way to small to have it at all.

    4. Division exclusive items are special skins? They needed a year to include "4" sets (2 male 2 female(not even the costum creation event winners...)).

    5. I honestly don't know how COR, KWN, EFF and DMK should work. DEF and CBT okay, but I dont see how the game itself could Judge the rest at all. You guys thought about that so do you have somewhat of an idea how this should work?

    6. I dislike the idea about the only sword room setting but hey this are your thoughts.

    7. The cards would be a nice addition.

    Bonus 8. I would be happy with just the disable stats roomsetting for every mode.

    The only good reason would be FUN. But the game and the community is taking that kinda well away so I guess there is no good reason . Only people that are addicted to the game are still playing it.

    Well after I saw the patch I redownloaded the game. Played the game for 1h and uninstalled it. Not because the railgun is bad, because the game is literally unplayable. I would say "try again" but I'm not really sure if you should. Anyway. Whoever is still playing this game and says he has a fun time in s4 is just lying.

    Wt.f is this buddy? This list should be way much longer.

    And why do you put Aura Kingdom like sets into S4? <X

    Galaxy Set


    I would have been happier if you would have disabled those honestly.

    And no, no worries, we didn't disabled Only Swords or the Station-2 Map.

    I don't know how long you are playing the game but just in case.

    You can block the chat of people in game if you press esc and mark the box at their names.

    /e [player name] also blocks the chat. (copy paste from hella because lazy xD)

    I am still curious why did you bought ap if don't need them.

    Look. If I spend money for other people than that means less people need to upload AP. So in the end they get less money because only I spent AP for 2 other people in this case. It is not that hard!

    Jokes aside. I already got what I wanted with some AP I uploaded and the rest is useless. Answered? xD

    Hello Leaguers!

    Welcome to my new thread!

    *Add a text that nobody cares about anyway*


    Post a number between 1 and 300. Whoever gets closest to the number I have as my Desktop Background wins.


    1st Place: Permanent hair, pet or accessory of your choice (399AP)

    2nd Place:Permanent hair, pet or accessory of your choice (399AP)

    3rd Place: Don't have enough AP for it anymore

    Participation reward: Nothing


    The event starts on Wednesday 20th of March 18:45 PM (Now) until Saturday 30th of March 23:59 PM CEST time.


    • Only 1 entry per Person (1 number).
    • You can edit your entry as long as the event is running.
    • No exceptions for participation outside of the set time frame will be given. Sorry!
    • Hitting like doesn't hurt. ;)

    By the way I'm going to contact the winners here in the forum when the event is over! (And before someone asks: I have no use for the AP so yeah…)

    Good luck and cya~ Opheliafacepalm

    I saw on discord that Hella needs a new thread. So lets make one. (I'm honestly bored by the way because I have to wait)

    So here are 2 things you probably never knew but you actually don't need to know!

    Number 1:

    When you click on a name in the chatbox (or whatever it is called) in the lobby you can open the whisp function with him/her!

    Number 2:

    You know these numbers (yellow box) at the name in the lobby where you can open the information about the set and weapons (if the info is not blocked). Well if you doubleclick on it fast you open the Userinfo of that person!

    Thanks for letting me educate you and hope this helps you out in the future in I don't know what… yeah.

    The Terms of Service changed and I didn't realize that at all.

    Anyone saw or got informed about the changes six weeks before it came into effect? For my part I never had the chance to object because you did not inform me.

    Dear aeria games/gamigo. If you want people to stick to your Terms of Service then how about you start there yourselves? :rolleyes:

    Because they don't want to add it or are just too lazy for it. It is just a recolor from the current ones and doesn't take months to do so. That doesn't mean they have to the rainbow longtail but wouldn't be a problem with other colors/skins. Releasing skins with many color variations would also make more money flow tho

    Well I agree with most of it but I honestly don't have a problem with the stun or the dash. If we only take the weapon itself into consideration I feel the light slash hitbox is really irritating and way too big. Other than that I think the weapon itself is fine. Factors like unpredictable enchants/laghits, boosted up forcepacks, esper chips, unique skills are making everything just broken. Making you sometimes feel like you play this game since days because hits that shouldn't hit you are hitting you (what a strange sentence). I think you get what I mean.

    -Also, it used t be that you could not dash carelessly into the goal against a revolver player since they had the ability to make you miss your dash if they hit you at the right timing, but it doesn't seem to happen very often anymore, although I can't tell if it is because of the Rev/Shotty/HG/Dual nerfs or because of server latency.

    Just an addition the reduce blow/knockback enchants. I guess this is also a factor to the already mentioned lags.

    true, people should be forced to play stuff they don't feel like

    You mean against stuff they can't handle ;)

    Yeah i totally agree, it's not like it was usefull to kick people who are afk for 15 minutes or people with 900 ms, let's just keep them in the room, dont improve the system just get rid of it, that's the solution ^^

    Don't forget to kick amateur players and people that break stupid room rules :D

    Crying over spillled milk again?

    You got caps, items, pen, a second christmas event and not to mention the recent codes and the year event with full fp sets. If you don't like it don't take it easy as that. They don't have to give you anything in the first place.

    And yes Idc about the rewards because I get the least use out of the events most of the time so grow up I would say.

    Sure would be nice if it would be perm but you got so many stuff anyway ¯\_(ツ)_/¯